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thanks for your input!!! I’m excited and been doing this for a week. (did a little of both). Felt like cr@p the first week until my 24 hour fast, which I felt fine… I’m still trying to dial how i feel on IF (both ways – combo) and researching a TON of info. I have not read the Warrior Diet just yet, but will very soon.

Mike, sounds like you live more of a lifestyle on the “Warrior Diet” and a combo of a 24 hr fast OR the fast/feed approach depending on your day? sounds like you have a schedule like mines. lol. Very interesting AND motivating. I thought I was the only one with a weird schedule, thus I have a hard time finding answers more suited to my needs/days.

Another question is concerning Lyle Mcdonald’s approach to fat loss. i’ve read what you recommended in the HIIT and SS cardio approach. would you still do this approach AFTER your weight training? would you do SS cardio AFTER your sport specific workout? ie: after practice from BJJ/Judo?

thanks

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Yes stress is a killer, and does not mix well with fasting either. Also exercise, primarily some strength based training, is key to helping maintain that “fat burning” muscle around. People who are lean and stay that way tend to have a good base of lean muscle (don’t worry about bulking up, won’t happen).

May also want to check out some of the ramblings I have in this post on IF….some may relate to your lifestyle as well.
http://www.fitnessspotlight.com/2010/03/19/25-fasting-foods-results/

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I had read that dehydration could also be a problem – I usually do a good job with that – I sit at a desk, so it’s pretty easy…

It’s sad that I have a hard time even updating – without writing another book…I won’t bore you with the details. I took out the fasting and concentrated on just eating real food – with a conscious effort to include more fruit and starch (since that was lacking) – the results were mixed – so I added the IF back in, 1-2x a week. I really like the daily better, though – I’m still taking the 5-HTP, and I do feel it helps. I’d actually decided this weekend that I need to plug my stuff into Fitday – I just hate to do it. I lost 70 lbs several years ago by counting, but it was pure low fat, low calorie – not really concentrating on real food. After counting for 5 years, I got burned out…

I’m currently looking at other factors – my desk at work is horrible – something from the 70s, not ergonomic at all. The opportunity for a new desk is nil (I don’t have the best working situation at the moment), and I’m using what I have to try and make do (yes, come July – I will be looking to change my work environment). I just recently had my eyes examined – making sure my “blind as a bat” vision hadn’t taken a turn for the worse, causing strain.

But I feel a real factor has to be stress. I am a stressed out person. Way too many irons in the fire and not nearly enough hands (or hours in the day). I’m trying to work on that as well – but it’s slow going.

hmm…I said I wouldn’t write a book, but I lied – sorry guys – I don’t really have anyone “like minded” around to bounce things off of. Plenty of SAD – not nearly enough interest in looking into alternatives. I really appreciate all the help you’ve given -

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Yes…it is something I do right now. Technically, everyone eats in a “condensed eating window” because you go to sleep….and then don’t eat until you wake. I usually prolong it because I don’t like eating big meals in the AM. My days are anywhere between 8-12 hour windows with a cutoff at 8pm weekdays. I throw in a longer fast here and there (1x a week, sometimes 2x) all depending oh how I feel and my recovery needs.

As far as people who are very active, eating for recovery comes first. Something more like a “Warrior Diet” style approach may be best for you (eating lighter meals during the day, bigger ones at night) to make sure you are getting in all the macronutrients and calories you need. If weight loss is the goal, you could still lose weight and cut back on calories. If you can condense your eating window down and still make it work, more power to you.

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From my site, perhaps this can be of help:

“During Ramadan fasting, migraine-suffereres reported that migraines occurred more frequently during the fast. The researchers speculated that it was likely due to blood glucose dropping or dehydration. My bet is on the latter.”

So, are you drinking enough? Some people have trouble drinking enough when left to their own devices and need to make a conscious effort to drink more fluids during the fast. The blood glucose-theory of migraine may or may not be that legit, considering that blood glucose remains remarkably stable during fasting for up to 48 hrs (yes, it’s been studied).

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this would be ideal if you train later in the day, say 3-4pm as opposed to morning training. I’m only saying this because it’s easy to skip breakfast and early lunch to eat kcals later in the day as opposed to eating all your kcals in the morning and fasting through the evening. Well, that may not be true for everyone but it’s been true for me and many others I’ve chatted with.

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